D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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mihael8920
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D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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hy ,
i have couple of problems !

don't know how conect:
1. engine wire from D16Z5 with inside wire D14A4 !
or engine wire from D14 to Engine D16Z5

i have:
complete D14 engine + Ecu (P3Y) + distributor + injectors + senors
complete D16Z5 (obd0) engine + ECU (PM7) + distributor + injectors with injector resistor + all sensors (OBD0)

what i need ?

what is easyest way to make a swap ?

pls help me !

i don't have money for swap P3y to OBD1 and run P28 with D16z%, i must run D16z5 with Item I have

SORYY ON VERY BAD ENG. I hope you understand what I want

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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You selected the hard way to go ;) :)
You have all the stuff from D16z5, swap them all.
Then the key is to make to fit the D16z5 harness with your interior loom/harness, so that your d14 dash to work.
Search for pinouts for both cars interior loom/harness from manouals and make your own harness that will let work your dash.

The second option is to run D16z5 with D14 engine harness and obd1 ecu.
So you can swap all the sensors from D14 engine into D16z5 and and keep the D14 harness but converting the pinouts for maching obd1 ecu. I don't now if it is save to run D16 with D14 ecu basemaps, that why I am saying to convert it to obd1.

And one another option is to swap d16y7 engine harness with all it's sensors and the ecu from d16y7

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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BETEK wrote:You selected the hard way to go ;) :)
oh, i know ;)

Then the key is to make to fit the D16z5 harness with your interior loom/harness, so that your d14 dash to work.
Search for pinouts for both cars interior loom/harness from manouals and make your own harness that will let work your dash.
these is the best way for me, but can't find manuall for D14A4, Does someone have a link


The second option is to run D16z5 with D14 engine harness and obd1 ecu.
these is the best option, but i have no money for these step, maybe later


And one another option is to swap d16y7 engine harness with all it's sensors and the ecu from d16y7
these engine is very rarely in Croatia
THX. man !!! :)

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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hy, thx for link to manuall ,there is a lot of useful things. :))

..but :(
i don't have 3 conectors (A+B+D) like a picture.
i have only 2 con: A with 26 pins and D with 22 pins and one green connector from the engine dizzy to the interior dizzy

Image

any idea, or diagram for green conector !?

EDIT: http://www.wazzzup.nl/me/C131%20-%20mapping.jpg is that corect ?

:)

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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For the D14A4 ECU, you only have 2 connectors, the pinout for that is right on this site:
http://dodo-upgrades.nl/pinoutD14.htm

About the green connector, indeed Wazzzup is one of the only guys ever to have mapped it, he asked me before hehe. Perhaps we should put his sensor in our wiki, though it might need some validation.

You really take the hard way man, but your safest method of running the engine is indeed connecting the ECU which goes with it, so the original OBD0 ECU. Since you are limited in options, getting an OBD1 (or OBD2) ECU to work is really hard since the dizzy has a different number of teeth on the CKP sensor (20 versus 21 or such numbers). OBD1 and OBD2 ECU's will simply throw error codes, though they might run.

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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Dodo Bizar wrote: You really take the hard way man, but your safest method of running the engine is indeed connecting the ECU which goes with it, so the original OBD0 ECU..
i use this method ! ;)

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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Good luck michael and let us know how it goes so you may help future people on the site :)
1996 EJ9 Civic
1998 BB8 Prelude Motegi VTi
1998, B16A2 EK4 Civic VTi

Aims:
EJ9 - Now my GF's car.
BB8 - Rebuild after crash damage to front end.
EK4 - Daily driver. Strip and track prep once prelude project complete

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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Yesterday we made a lot of work, complete interior and engine installation is connected, the D16 is ready to burn when removed from the mistakes 6,10,11 ECU mainly to errors in sensor (TA,IMA)

fuel pump works, main reley of D14 is connected to the installation of the D16, now I have to solve the power distributor and that's it!
I make diagrams of the merger if the project succeeds, because until now I have everything documented and photographed

All controls on the control panel work

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Re: D16Z5 swap into EJ9 (D14A4)

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Who you are fast man! I am quite experienced with these engines and I know how much work it is to make such different looms work, respect!

If you like you can document it using the wikipedia I recently started and which is actually in a lame debug phase since I did not manage to get the right colorscheme working.

For the wiki visit: http://www.dodo-upgrades.nl/du_wiki

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