Timing Belt

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Timing Belt

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It's time to replace the timing belt and tensioner for the second time. Honda manual mentions it has to be replaced every 100.000 km but just to be sure i change them every 80-85K along with the water pump.
I found this site here which has a set including genuine timing belt genuine tensioner and genuine water pump for only 100usd. In Greece i would have paid as mush only for the water pump. So it's a deal for me.
Still one question. The kit for d14a4 would be this one
http://www.autodynamics-honda.com/hop2ap2jtibe.html
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But since it is not available (the timing belt) at the moment, they have recommended this one which they claim to be same
http://www.autodynamics-honda.com/hop08tibewap.html
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The intermediate code is different p2a vs p08 but the other numbers are the same
14400 p2a 004
14400 p08 004
So i guess they are the same right?

Do all d-series share the same timing belt and tensioner? What about the water pump? From the looks i can tell that they differ.

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Hmmm... differences of the timing belts of all D-series are in the number of teeth.

D14A3/A4/Z1/Z2 + D15Z1/Z3/Z6 = 103 teeth
D16Z6 + D16Y7/Y8 = 104 teeth
D15B2/B7 = 106 teeth

So ehr if the timing belt is ment for D15Z1/Z3 or so it is fine...

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Ive gotta change mine aswell i was gonna buy from that site but like you said they are out. Personally i would wait until they are back in stock unless you have a chance to compare them yourself, somehow i doubt that there is a proper returns policy at this place considering they are based in singapore!!!
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Joris the belt master :lol: :lol:

D14A3/A4/Z1/Z2 + D15Z1/Z3/Z6 = 103 teeth
From the site i can see the following part number for d14a4 engine
P2A-P2J
103RU24
96-00 Honda Civic VTi Vi Mi ML SOHC & SOHC VTEC D13B D14A4 D15B D15Z4 D15Z5 D15Z6 D15Z9 3-stage VTEC D15B D15Z7 T

The one for d15b jdm has the same
P08
103RU24
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D16Z6 + D16Y7/Y8 = 104 teeth
P2E- P2F
96-00 Honda Civic EX DX LX CX HX GX Del Sol 1.6 S SOHC Si SOHC VTEC D16Y8 D16Y7 D16Y6 D16Y5 D16Y4 D16Y1 D16B1 D16B5
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D15B2/B7 = 106 teeth
PM3
106RU24
The last is very interesting as it includes 88-95 Honda Civic CRX DX LX CX Std. HF SOHC D13B D13B1 D13B2 D14A1 D15B D15B1 D15B2 D15B6 D15B7 D15B8 D15Z8

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So the guy from Singapore is right. I am going to purchase it.
Do you know if there is any difference in tensioners and water pumps? Are they all the same?

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I would take the tensioner and pump for the P2A and the belt from the P08.I wouldn't use that pump and tensioner from the P08.

D14A3/A4 and D16Y7 engine blocks are the same except for the D14 using different internals.That's something i learned true the years of playing with all the parts.Both the A3/A4 and the Y7 share the same P2A code ;)
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hondaNickx wrote:I would take the tensioner and pump for the P2A and the belt from the P08.I wouldn't use that pump and tensioner from the P08.

D14A3/A4 and D16Y7 engine blocks are the same except for the D14 using different internals.That's something i learned true the years of playing with all the parts.Both the A3/A4 and the Y7 share the same P2A code ;)
Very true man!
The salesman from Singapore proposed the same thing!

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cool, well let us know if it works. Your engine can be the sacrificiall lamb, if it works ill buy too, if not then.... oops :) :) :)
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hondaNickx wrote:D14A3/A4 and D16Y7 engine blocks are the same except for the D14 using different internals.That's something i learned true the years of playing with all the parts.Both the A3/A4 and the Y7 share the same P2A code ;)
So could you take a D14 block, fit d16y7 internals(crank, rods, etc), to increase displacement?
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hmm thats a good idea, i see no problem with that...
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