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Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:16 pm
by hondaNickx
Dodo Bizar wrote:I never saw it... just heard of it. But Polish? I thought Bulgarian or so...
Ah or bulgarian or something i saved it onto my hard drive.I was going true some dyno plots and noticed that dyno of 153hp doesn't look like a D14 in any way.Hp curves and torque curves are different ,most D14 curves i've seen act all the same .Even the 145bhp curve of your setup Joris .
I compared it to a D16 dyno and appears to be just that.It was a D14 with only a very wild cam now i remember.I think it was a D16 with some mods.
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:00 pm
by Dodo Bizar
Do you think it is BS? I would really like to have the owner of that car on this forum explaining it. Can you post the graph (or send it to me so I can put it up?).
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:40 pm
by hondaNickx
Well it was hard to believe in the first place with Only a wild cam on a D14 to gain that much hp and a lot of torque. That torque curve doesn't look like D14 at all either.
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:50 pm
by saxophonias
Are we sure it's not a d16 claiming it to be d14?
What is weird about this plot apart from the high numbers and the low revs that 150hp are performed?
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:07 pm
by hondaNickx
I found it,it was posted under valvetrain /cam section.
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:31 pm
by hondaNickx
From the looks of it it actually appears to be a D14 indeed.
He had 124 hp and 137Nm of torque tuned .
I don't know if that's with or without the cam but i assume without the cam.
The final result was 153hp and 160nm of torque .
That's almost 30 hp gain with just a extreme cam
There must have been done much much more to that Head then just a cam.
I did a little more research and in this movie from 1.32min you actually see this D14 in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSz1TtPK ... re=related
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:48 pm
by Dodo Bizar
What a weird torque curve. A shame he does not put out more rpms. But I've nver seen such a progressive torque before. Normally you have the 4k dip (he has to), from there all D-series have a small rise in torque which flattens out and start declining again depending on the setup between 5.5 to 7.5 k. His torque rises enormously. Unbelievable high loading, his torque is higher than my B16B relatively. And my B16B with 175 Nm was already on the edge of volumetric possible efficiency (like 113%, a quick calc learns he must be around 118%).
Still the normal torque till 5k makes it a believable D14 to me... I should have this cam profile
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Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:07 pm
by saxophonias
could it better cam than bisimoto's
isn't it weird the revs that has the max power?
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:37 pm
by hondaNickx
It could be a really good cam like a stage 3 or something (Bisimoto could do that too) But what i don't get is that it actually makes power without higher compression or any port & polish.Or the D14 is really a strange engine that likes sharp cams ? I don't know and on top of it all it's tuned with safc or some kind of ecu manipilator box .
If this guy makes that much hp with a extreme cam i don't know what to expect from my project ,if the D14 is that sensitive
Re: Various dynoplots of tuned d14, around the web
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:20 pm
by saxophonias
but wouldn't a such aggressive cam need higher revs to make power, and on the other hand would the performance
fall from 7100?
Are we sure it's not something else here?
